Turbo Thread

Winter is here.

Also

Winter is coming

Actually. I understand that Autumn is next up.

Autumn and winter is racing season for some of us.

#vedtips

I can do you a motivational poster dahn?

If you use TR it doesn't matter if you get your FTP right first time because when you set a new record it updates your FTP for the next session, it will do this every session until you settle at the correct number. But, you need an Erg trainer.

If you're in a block they are 8 weeks long and an FTP test is on sessions 1 of weeks 1 and 5

Handy to know cheers

This is also my plan - do three turbos a week and then supplement with two outside rides. The TIK was good while it lasted and then yeah the club run or longer weekend ride.... I think thats surely plenty for us mere mortals

Lies

Why won't it work on rollers? Because you have to control the resistance?

ERG isn't great on a fluid turbo, as at the beginning of each interval the fluid is cooler so harder to work through, then as it heats up the resistance gets easier.

But for a direct drive, yes, absolutely spot on.

If in the real outside world I ride up Beddlestead in 8.22 at an average of 275 watts that would translate to an ftp of approx 250 right assuming I gave it all the beans? Minus 10% on 8 min power?

I just tested on TR and I was down a bit on this figure tonight

I guess that difference is the joy of freedom and the motivation of trying to stay with club mates

I think it's a well established fact that FTP figures are generally lower on turbo trainers compared to outdoors. There is also a knack to doing tests that you'll not get right first time.

Don't you have to do the 8 minutes twice in an FTP test? Would you be able to ride back down Beddlestead and back up again with the same power?

That is a very good point - probably not quite as I was pretty fooked. I have also read it shouldnt be done on a hill

Do my segment (linked somewhere back up the thread). Goes up Polhill and designed for continuous effort. It can go to over 20 minutes if you want.

Just read Xavier whassisface talking about a rider on team awrocoach.
15 w/kg FTP.

Can we stop the willy waving now?

It can be done on a steady gadient surely?
Looks at layhams.

It's temperature that usually makes the biggest difference to indoors vs outdoors.

Or just ride a 10 mile TT.

I assume that's the New Zealand ex-rower Bond. Hamish Bond.

He was over earlier in the summer working with Arrocoach with a view to making the NZ cycling squad, went back to NZ but is now back in the UK for a crack at the 25 mile TT National record this Sunday.

Good point :)

For what duration?

Because that's key. The accepted* level of a GT winning rider is being able to put out 6 w/kg for 30 minutes or more. I'd have thought Cavendish can put out more than 15 w/kg but for less than 30 seconds.

* not sure it is accepted by all. Some riders have put out more than that but they were doped to the gills.

I dunno Andy. I would guess if it's Hamish, at least as long as he can ride a 25 for?